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TJM4FUN
05-31-2002, 03:36 AM
Figured I pass this along. Just upgraded a friends old k6 2-300 pc.
He got bit by the games bug and "needed more power Scotty!!"
He had already upgraded his vid card from some no name pci to an mx2 400 aopen, and added a 20 gig drive, and 2 128meg memory sticks, so he wanted to try to preserve his existing investment where possible.

He got the ecs k7s5a with an xp1700 with hsf for 140$ from accessmicro,
and a enermax400w for 40$ form a local shop sale.

The ecs mobo is not for the overclocker, but has some potentially nice features for a budget upgrade:

1. mobo alone is around 54$
2. has 2 dimm and 2 sdram slots, so old memory can be reused to defer expenses.
3. on board sound, useful since the old soundcard was isa.
4. on board 10/100 ethernet adapter
5. supports ata 100 on both ide ports.

has a header to add 2 more usb ports, in the front if you can carve the case.

I guided him thru the physical install, we powered on to default bios settings with no io cards in and lan disabled, and win98 came up! only problem we had was the miniport driver for the sis chipset was unreadabl;e on the cdrom. after getting one from the sis site, all the drivers installed from the cd fine.
We turned on all the features, he added hi 4 port usb card back from the other machine, and all is fine.
Went back to bios and set cpu to 133 and mem to 133, now it is reporting the xp1700 properly and seems to be running very nicely. Temp from mbm5 is 40-41c idle and 44 after running a few
demos on the games.
So in spite of all the problems I saw posted on some other forums, seems like a decent board to me, and he is happy as a clam!
There are some tweaks for the bios to enable tweaking the fsb, but he isn;t interested in oc'ing, he wants stable. Next step when a few$$ presents itself is to go from 256m dimms to a single 512 ddr module, then if all his usb devices are supported, I get to experiment with installin xp on the machine! (better his than mine!) hehe

:dev:

Dramen
05-31-2002, 04:39 AM
tjm

Bought it for my wife a while back, never had any problems with it. Very decent board for the $.

Case
05-31-2002, 04:50 AM
Wow - should be able to play about any game real good with that setup. About as cheap as I've heard for a decent mb. What was the total cost on the upgrade?

muckshifter
05-31-2002, 06:46 AM
Have one myself, as the pennies will not allow the MSI KT3 just yet. :smirk:

I also use them in my "budget" builds and have one "in stock" for standby. I do like the idea of F8 to boot from any device, nice feature.

Tim If ... nay, WHEN you move to XP do not use the drivers off the CD ... XP has it's own and they work. ;)

TJM4FUN
05-31-2002, 10:28 PM
Case, the total cost was around 180$,
the mobo + xp1700 +hsf was 136$, the psu around $35, plus the shipping. Since we reused his 2 128m dimms and vidcard, that was the upgrade cost.

Mucks, I would use the xp drivers, I already know about the driver bit with xp. His biggest concern is he has a usb scanner,
a digital camera, and a specialized photo usb scanner that he needs to confirm are supported under xp.

Also I would like to do an install on my machine to get the feel of it before I do his...

Pigflipper
06-01-2002, 04:17 AM
I had the microATX version of that board for a long time until I kinda threw it through a window (will explain at another time, for those of you in the chatroom, you know what I am talking about) but I never had a problem with that chipset and having the onboard NIC was nice.

floppybootstomp
06-01-2002, 04:51 AM
I've built a coupla systems for friends using that board, it's a fine product, IMO, and flies :) Interestingly (as I see it costs $54.00 in the States) it costs around £54.00 in the UK.

muckshifter
06-01-2002, 07:20 AM
I cannot vouch that the USB devices will work faultlessly but as they are USB I would think the various manufactures have XP versions of there drivers if not XP’s own. The support for digital cameras in XP is awesome. I just used the built-in XP drivers for Nettie's camera, a Kodak DC200 plus. :shocki:

Nettie’s HP P1000 printer gave me three months of driver hell, and two replacements, until I installed XP. Now not only does it work but also she can now use her flash card (or smart media card) in the printer as a removable drive. :D

However, I did have to buy her a new scanner, as the old one was 4 years old and no longer supported. We have a nice new USB Agfa SnapScan (£49.99) with touch buttons. I totally disregarded the CD that came with it and downloaded the XP drivers. Works a treat and is quick.

No need to tell you to invest in a USB powered hub. ;)

:uk:

TJM4FUN
06-01-2002, 10:25 PM
Well, Mucks, this is not my setup, so I'd have to get all the deviced specifics to go check. myself I have absolutely 0 usb devices at this time. I agree a powered hub would be nice, but he had previously bought a 4 port usb cardand now each device is on it's own port. He's still in the learning phase tho, and I told him about getting a powered hub at some point.


Hopefully I will do the upgrade first so I have a comfort level with xp and have a burned cd with any tweaks and utilities to make it
truly useable.

Troy
07-21-2002, 04:25 PM
I also have had this board for 3 months now and didnt have any problems.
But damn,I paid 55.00 (states).
Someone made a dollar.

Troy
07-21-2002, 04:41 PM
Here it is
http://store.yahoo.com/4itech/ecsk7s5asocs.html

floppybootstomp
07-21-2002, 04:41 PM
Only peripheral casualty I suffered going to XP was my HP 4200C Scanner (USB) and that not totally.

It still works but the software that came with it isn't compatible with XP. This causes problems like when I import a pic to a Publisher frame I get an image of the whole scanner bed and have to crop and stretch the image to fit.

With the HP Scanner software, pix used to fill a frame. I think that Scanner's about 2 to 3 years old now.

If the XP CD is loaded into a system, there's an option to do a compatibility check that's quite useful, it raised doubts about my scanner after a search.

TJM4FUN
07-21-2002, 11:01 PM
Just an update, xp went on fine, he dl'd a few fixes for his hp picture printer and scanner , and all is well. the camera works fine.

He's happy as a clam with the board, and his newfound confidence has him changing out hdd's and partitioning, and making drive images. scary !

NExt step for him will be replacing the mem to some pc 2100 and
getting rid of the pc133 stuff.