Just got ADSL...

[Furton]

... with demon.net and my god is this faster than a modem, pages take nothing to load and downloading is 60kbps from the US, haven't tried a UK site yet:D

But...

When I'm connected using ADSL I can't use the phone, I get the same sort of noise as when the modem is connected, but this only happens on one telephone.

The set up.

In the house we have 2 hard wired lines (same number though, just there when we moved in, pro job) but I haven't got a hard wired line in my room, so I use an extension cable to reach the up-stairs phone line. Now here's where the problem is, I think:sarcastic

I use a microfilter from the modem to my extension line which plugs into the phone line upstairs. This means I can connect to the net (super fast:D, just can't help it!!!) but the upstairs makes that horrid noise. When I plug another microfilter on the end of the extension cable from my room the phone works but the net doesn't.

Hope someone understood that:lol:

Any ideas?

[Grogan]

You need a filter at every analog phone device in the house, that's connected to the line that has the DSL.

You don't put any filter going into the DSL modem, nor on a line that feeds into the modem.

The filters are usually a lead with a male end that goes into the wall jack (or splitter), and the female end to plug a telephone into.

Once you get your filters right, the problem should clear up for you.

[Furton]

But my ADSL line from the modem only fits into the filter, can I get a longer line from my ADSL modem straight into the filter on the upstairs line?

[BitBender]

No sah, the filters go between each phone and the cord. It fileters out the higher freq signals, which your phones hear as
static. Unless you got a second phone line for the DSL, it piggybacks on the regular phone circut.

As my most excellent Mod organG said, one for each phone, but not the modem.. There should have been some included in the modem kit. It's a bisexual looking sort of connector, fem obn one end, and male dongle plug at the other.

Plug wire from wall into fem end, and male goes to phone :)

[Grogan]

You can use splitters and stuff, just don't have a low pass filter anywhere in between the phone line source and the modem.

For example let's simplify and say the phone upstairs is plugged into a wall jack. Get one of those splitters and plug it into the wall jack. Plug the male end of the filter into one of the female connections on the splitter. Plug the phone into the female end on the filter.

On the other female end on the splitter, plug your extension cord to go to your room. If you want a phone in your room, use another splitter with a filter plugged into one female. Now, finally, run a line from the other female of the splitter to the DSL modem with no filter :-)

[Furton]

Fixed it, had a mix up with the cables where they went into the upstairs phone line. Had the extension cable from the filter, where the modem connects to, going into a 3 port plug then into another filter, what I should have done, and have done. Is have the extension cable go into the 3 port plug and the filter for the other phone go into that 3 port plug.

Now It's all sorted I can browse all day, I'm loving this, downloaded around 300MB already.

[Furton]

Got my new HD for my main rig but I want me second rig to act as a server for the rest of the house and also access the internet for the rest of the house since it'll be on 24/7.

I seem to remember that setting up ICS was easy as pie on a 56k, just go to the advance options on the ADSL connection dialog and click enable ICS, but it's not there, just the firewall options. Has SP1 moved this option to somewhere else?

[Grogan]

I wouldn't use a second rig for that... I'd invest in a "broadband router". It will then handle the PPPoE connection for you, and the sharing of the connection.

However, if you've used the native Windows XP PPPoE client, the connection sharing checkbox should be available, on the Advanced tab of the properties of the connection. Note: I think you'd have to have two network adapters installed in the machine for that to be shown. In other words, you'd have to be capable of sharing the connection.

Here, I just pulled this outta Google's ass for your viewing pleasure :-)

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpadcnf.htm

[Furton]

That's what puzzels me, I've got a LAN connection between both PC's and would use a proxy server on the 2nd rig to share the connection but I haven't found one that supports ICQ. So why is ICS option not available in the advance tab?



Please don't suggests routers, can't afford one and won't buy something I'll only use for the summer.

[Grogan]

Hmm... is the ADSL modem USB or does it connect to an ethernet adapter? ICS may not be able to share a USB networking connection. Never tried it, so I don't know.

On second thought, I don't see why it shouldn't be able to. The "Adapter" is a logical thing for this kind of connection.

[Furton]

It's USB, but I had the same thought, it's still an internet connection. What's the best proxy server out there that has full support for sockets 4 & 5?

[martzweb]

i use a usb ISDN adapter and it shares just fine. also, i've set up ICS through the usb dsl modem that bt supplies for several people, equally fine :)

[Furton]

Right, got further down the line today. Got the ICS options in the advance tab on my connection but it doesn't work on my 2nd PC, the internet that is. In connections to 2nd Rig sees the connection but it can never connect to the server. Ideas?

[floppybootstomp]

firewall on 2nd machine?

favoured addresses set on firewall?

[Furton]

Yes, added the IP 192.168.0.2 in the Black Ice settings, what should the TCP/IP settings be on both computers if I assign them myself? I usually use the 192.168.. IP's but not having much luck this time.

[Furton]

Right, got it working except MSN and Windows Update won't work through ICS, but all other non Microsoft producst will, arghhhh. Is this common or just my set up again?

[floppybootstomp]

That's a strange one Furton. Your setup is allergic to Microsoft? Odd. Sorry, haven't a clue :dunno:

[Furton]

Does Windows Updated work through ICS? I can get MSN to work sometimes but ICS plain out refuses to work. Always says there are no new updates when I know there are, Media Player 9?

[martzweb]

windows update works just fine through ics furton, in fact i'm using it now.....

[Furton]

Cheers martz. But I don't think that'll help. I connected the ADSL modem directly into my PC and Windows Update didn't work, and IE6 doesn't remember my PW or accepts cookies for anything on the net, even with settings set to accept all cookies. Something is serioulsy wrong here since my brother can connect to Windows Update, any other suggestions.

[Furton]

BOOOOOOOM!!! Solved it, the year was 2024 on my PC, somehow? :D

[Mad dog]

Ahh ADSL, it's nice to come home form Uni for once and not switch from 10Mbps to 56k modem.

Now all we need to do is figure out a way to share the connection with all members of the house. We think rather than cabling the house up it would be better to go wireless.

Any idea on a good wireless setup. Would prefer to have a base station that could act as a router for the whole house

[martzweb]

the good old linksys BEFSR series are always a good bet, tho netgear are doing some super-fly wireless routers now as well. personally, i'd get rid of the dsl modem, and put in a netgear modem/router/firewall/wireless jobby, and use netgear external usb, or belkin external usb NIC's.

since i dont have broadband, i use ICS still, but i do have a belkin 54G wireless access point plugged directly into an intel pro100+ in my main rig, and each of the other machines have netgear or belkin wireless NIC's. it works well.