Trend question....

[~Jan~]

I actually like Trend but my free trial has expired now. I was going to pay for it and had gone to the site to do so but when I saw $80.00 for a year subscription I decided to hold off.

Tax time is coming up again next month :MAD1:and I just don't want to spend the extra money knowing I'll have taxes to pay. :cryol:

So with all that unnecessary jazz being said I'm going to go with that one you all talk about. I can't think of the name of it now and just looked at the thread... anyway, if I get that one should I go ahead and make sure all the "Trend" stuff has been removed first? I'm assuming so but just want to make sure which I do first, download the free one or get the Trend off first.

If you could please answer that for me I will probably take care of this tomorrow.

[Dark Angel]

Download a GOOD free one (avira antvir comes to mind) then remove Trend, THEN after a reboot install Antivir. Then make sure you update it and run a full system scan.

[ablib]

If you're paying, Eset Nod32, is the choice.

$80!!!??? Is that for one of those all in one mumbo jumbo crap deals, like Anti-virus, spyware, firewall, spam, crap, etc..., all in one protection?

I hate all that extra junk, I just need Anti-Virus. You can get Nod32 antivirus only for $24.95 for one year, or $37.40 for two years.

If you want all that extra "protection" then it's $59.99.


http://www.eset.com/purchase/

[~Jan~]

Download a GOOD free one (avira antvir comes to mind) then remove Trend, THEN after a reboot install Antivir. Then make sure you update it and run a full system scan.

Yep, that's the one DA! :thumbsup: It seems everyone likes that one quite a bit. Figured since it was free I would go with that one. Thanks for your help. :) I'll take care of it first thing in the morning. I can't think too straight right now being as tired as I am. :lol: In fact, on that note I'm going to bed. :D




If you're paying, Eset Nod32, is the choice.

$80!!!??? Is that for one of those all in one mumbo jumbo crap deals, like Anti-virus, spyware, firewall, spam, crap, etc..., all in one protection?

I hate all that extra junk, I just need Anti-Virus. You can get Nod32 antivirus only for $24.95 for one year, or $37.40 for two years.

If you want all that extra "protection" then it's $59.99.


http://www.eset.com/purchase/

Adam, honestly I don't know what all it has without looking. I just let it do its thing. :dunno:

http://us.trendmicro.com/us/home/

I don't want to pay anything for one right now so I appreciate your offer but gotta go with the freebie. The guys here swear by it so I know it's gotta be good. ;)

Btw, it's good to see you and DM hanging out here more often! :)

[ablib]

Things sure are calmer here..... :)

[BitBender]

www.computersworth.com (http://www.computersworth.com) - 18 bucks - 3 seat licence - Means you can use it in on up to three puters - eighteen dollars

[TJM4FUN]

Honestly, I would use the free anti-vir over a paid for trend. the only one I would consider paying for is nod32, but honestly, a decently savvy surfer will have more than they need with anti-vir, the realtime scanner is actually pretty amazing to see. I've had it catch embedded trojans in movie software, and catch regenerating trojans in a machine where I missed the root program, wheich let me know I had to search a little harder. Unfortunately no one program can catch everything anymore, I only go with personal experience in use and what is on the machines I clean up.

[Grogan]

Nod32 is nice. It's light weight, seamless (you'd hardly know it's there), has reasonably good detection capabilities and excellent heuristics. It also does seamless email and web filtering without causing problems. (There's the ticket... that's not completely necessary, but since it doesn't stuff things up or slow anything down, why not?) When judging antivirus software, you have to consider more than just detections. For most people, Nod32 is what I prefer because it won't annoy them, it will aggressively update itself, and it is very unlikely to get broken and cripple their system.

However, I actually trust Avira Antivir's detection capabilities of trojans and malware more than any other. Yes, in my experience I do believe that it detects more junk than Nod32. At least the kinds of junk that I encounter on systems.

Avira Antivir is the one I use to scan computers I'm working on, regardless of what they already have, or what they are going to have. It is also light weight and seldom causes any problems. However, the updates aren't as seamless (occasionally servers are slow and not responding) and you need to be able to tell if the real time protection is not working properly (e.g. umbrella doesn't open on systray icon, and scanner isn't running. Sometimes there's a timing issue on some computers where the umbrella doesn't open and shows a deactivated status, but it really is working)

My recommendation for Jan is to go with Antivir, because it's free and effective.

When it's installed, go to Configure and check the "Expert" box. Under the General settings tree, go to Extended Threat Categories and enable the extra categories for unwanted software. This makes Antivir even more potent for malware.

[DonkeyOaty]

Grogan,

Just wondered if you had a view on McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, currently at V8.7i

Ta

[BitBender]

Grogan,

Just wondered if you had a view on McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, currently at V8.7i

TaI have - They use it on the network at work - McCrappie.

Slows down a dell D630 duo to the effective speed of a 750mhz machine.

I have no use at all for McCrappie.

[Dark Angel]

I had McCrappie on the first PC I bought.

Stupid thing couldn't catch a cold. Poor little K6-2 350 felt like it grew another 100MHz when I dumped it.

[Grogan]

I remove McCrappy products on sight, sorry. It's gets the same respect from me as Norton.

Coincidentally though, on Thursday I saw that corporate version of McAfee on a Thinkpad laptop I worked on. Her boss had put it on for her. I can't judge its efficacy (While I would expect it to be equally useless, I'm not as familiar with the enterprise product as the consumer ones), but it sure was bloated and crippling. I of course removed it before selling them a copy of Nod32.

[DonkeyOaty]

Morning guys.

McAfee is our chosen Corp product and seems to do a reasonable job. As part of the agreement we are allowed and encouraged to install it to our home PCs.

Things I like: I don't have to pay for it
Things I don't like: Seems to have a habit of detecting false positives for things it doesn't agree with (keygens especially). Its slows everything down. It causes explorer to crash on Vista when opening a folder with crtain file types (mpegs especially). Did I mention it slows everything down. The option to temporarily disable OAS is no longer available. It thinks it owns my PC!

I used to recommend it to others, I think I'll try NOD32...

[Grogan]

Yes, that's a good way to put it. Your computer doesn't exist to run crippling antivirus software and nor should you be subject to its whims. You're supposed to be the boss, not it.

[~Jan~]

My recommendation for Jan is to go with Antivir, because it's free and effective.

When it's installed, go to Configure and check the "Expert" box. Under the General settings tree, go to Extended Threat Categories and enable the extra categories for unwanted software. This makes Antivir even more potent for malware.

Well I got Trend removed and Antivir all installed and configured as you had said to do. :)

It said it found a few viruses, although those were on the other old drive.

http://sensuoussummons.com/BBT/virusscan.jpg

So I guess I'm wondering what about the other 2 things? If there was a total of 5 what's the 2 warnings and where are they and what are they? I don't see them anywhere.

I know I'm going to have others questions as this is all new to me but I'll just ask them as they pop into my little head.

[TJM4FUN]

You can click on the report button, and it will give you details on the problems. The warnings are normal, the swap file (pagefile.sys) cannot be scanned that is one, and the other could be any number of opened system files, I get one for the hibernate file, and there are a couple others. that is pretty much normal to see 2 to 3 warnings.
the report file is a simple text file, you can cut n paste it in if you want a quick look see.

[Grogan]

Ignore the warnings. It's silly of them to list those warnings on the main status screen. It just confuses and alarms users for no reason.

You care about detections. If you're paying attention during the scan, you know what they are as they are encountered (because you make a decision on them). Otherwise you have to go through the log afterwards if you don't note what they were. It's nothing to worry about though, it's just shit that was laying around.

[Dark Angel]

I'm doing one now for some folks ... was rather odd the first time I ran Antivir through it.
Deep rootkit scan first, like normal, but then while it's scanning the system drive the main dialogue would flash from one to two detections (and the same with hidden objects) before going back to one for each. This must have happened a half dozen times, since it caught my eye and I then started watching it closely.
I've since scanned it in safe mode and quarantined a trojan in a file called "Reboot.exe" but another scan as user/administrator (ie not safe mode) has found a hidden file that didn't show in safe mode (plus a plethora of warnings as usual, 32 so far) anyway, scan still running so I'll report back what it finds later.

Oh yeah, one more thing. This machine had the OS reloaded by the store that serviced it last. It appears that they used a dodgy windows activation key as I'm getting that WGA "you might be the victim of software anal intrusion" BS.

I'll be calling the owner later this morning to get their activation key and try and get rid of this.

[Grogan]

The real time scanner may have been prompting at the same time as the manual scan if you were getting duplicate dialogs.

[Dark Angel]

That's the funny thing, no duplicate dialogues, just the numbers flashing from one to two and back again. Quite odd.

[TJM4FUN]

that is odd, I've never seen that behaviour before. for reference, on scans I manually set it to delete all files. you have no choice of that with the realtime scanner tho.
My theory is I'll find if something necessary was deleted in the report file, and if it stops windows form coming up, then the infection warrants some serious intervention anyway.

[Dark Angel]

Also seeing other weirdness ... there's a 1Gb RAM stick in this think but winblows is only seeing 448Mb :wtf:

I think the motherboard can only cope with 512Mb sticks OR it's shagged. Checking now.