Malware antivirus and such

[Moose]

I have not been too serious about Malware, viruses, and such other than the general antivirus software (AVIRA), weekly scans with CCleaner since my kids have left home because I and my wife normally do not roam the internet and go to different places. Don't pirate stuff (anymore). Now my grandson comes over and uses our computers. We watch where he goes but dang - you can't even trust kid sites.

The other night he told my wife there was a popup on the screen that said she had a virus. She didn't tell me until the next day (dumbass). My wife could not get out of the popup so she just pressed yes, yes, yes to the questions. She told me about it this morning. Malwarebytes found several trojans. OK - no need to call me a dummy - I already know I was asking for trouble for not being more careful. Rootkit scan is going now.:angryfire

I'm looking for something that will do a good job of realtime scanning. I was thinking of switching to NOD32 for an antivirus but I'm thinking I need something else to watch for trojans, rootkits, malware and such. NOD32 did well for me in the past.

I went through this crap when my son was at home and every week his computer was infected with something. I know nothing is 100% but I would like to get real serious.

Any suggestions?

[Dark Angel]

Honestly, I found Avira to be as good or better than anything else I've come across, and if you want more protection there's a paid version with more features. If someone is going to keep clicking 'yes' then the best a/v in the world will let you down sooner or later. :dunno:

[Michael_Horatio]

I've put a few people who are in the same situation as you with kids on to this program (the payware version has the real time scanner)


http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

I haven't heard from any of them for a year or two so hopefully it helped..

but as was already said, nothing will help people who fall into traps and click yes.

You have to show her how to use the 'Back' button...:hammer:

[Fingerle]

Or teach her to use the task manager to kill the browser's process.

Gets rid of them won't close pop-ups REAL quick.

[Troy]

I never seen an antivirus program yet that catches malware.
Maybe those package deals like Norton or MCrappy,but thats more than just an antivirus program.

From my experience some of the malware is harder to get rid of than a virus or trojan,and easier to catch.

[Moose]

I've put a few people who are in the same situation as you with kids on to this program (the payware version has the real time scanner)


http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

I haven't heard from any of them for a year or two so hopefully it helped..

but as was already said, nothing will help people who fall into traps and click yes.

You have to show her how to use the 'Back' button...:hammer:

I've calmed down some. That just jacked me up that they didn't tell me for a day. I think I'm going to try the pay version of Malwarebytes.

Two years ago my wife had never used a computer. Then she started using mine. That didn't work too well so I got her her own. Now she keeps up with the kids and her sister, pays the bills, and has her favorite sites but she uses it like she drives her car. As long as everything is working well she is ok. She might even, after awhile, notice a light on. She just doesn't want to know any more than how to use it. My job is to keep it clean and running well.

The grandson however is a different story. I might just set up the spare laptop up for him in linux. If kids today are not computer literate and telecommunications literate they are 4 steps behind the rest of the world. It just takes time to educate them.

I'm getting too old for this sheit.

[Troy]

Moose, Sandboxie may be an idea

http://www.sandboxie.com/

[Grogan]

No, those package deals like Norton and McCrappy just hinder removal after the fact. They don't stop that shit either. I have to uninstall those to get them out of my face so I can clean the infections.

I have yet to see real time antispyware protection that does a better job than Avira at detecting malware (which isn't necessarily saying much). It's not an easy task, because tomorrow there are new variants of the same thing and the signatures don't work. I do not advocate paying for antispyware software just because it purports to have real time protection and nor is it worth the resources. They are better used as scanners for removal after the fact. (Something you don't necessarily want to let Avira handle... right tool for the right job)

[Michael_Horatio]

The grandson however is a different story. I might just set up the spare laptop up for him in linux. If kids today are not computer literate and telecommunications literate they are 4 steps behind the rest of the world. It just takes time to educate them.

I'm getting too old for this sheit.

The Linux idea is probably the best answer. For my nephews and other family members who can't be trusted to observe a few simple rules, I put Ubuntu or something on for them and make sure they do all their surfing and online game playing with it.