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    Fire anger Microsoft takes the war to the next level...


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    "Microsoft uses whatever tactics it takes to win at all costs."
    Somehow I think they will loose this one.
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    I know the Software world is highly competitive. But I think Microsoft has it Backwards this time.

    Instead of making their efforts in disproving a widely know success AKA Linux. Why dont they just make a version of the software that ports their applications to Linux? LOL that wont happen then ever version will be able to use it.

    What Microsoft could be spend such monies on is Making Xp,W2k and their other products "Virus Proof", "Hack Proof", "Crash Proof" Ect..

    If they waste their marketing efforts on ways to denounce Linux. They will reallize much too late that Linux will own 50% or even more of the marketshare before its too late.

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    Good Grief

    As crafty and slick as Microsoft is, this would backfire on them. If they really do implement an anti-Linux campaign, subtle or overt, it will serve as only so much free publicity for Linux.

    Linux is not a large, static target like Netscape, Sun, or IBM (OS/2). Linux development could be compared to a guerilla force -- loose knit, but organized cells mostly hidden.

    And with that said, I love WinXP!:dir:

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    The last coupla paragraphs sums it all up, IMO, Microsux have leaked the memo (if indeed there was officially such a memo) to appease shareholders.

    Money rules. Billy boy knows that. Shareholders getting restless, initiate PR programme letting shareholders know their interests are being looked after. That is, 'clobber Linux'. Fact is, they can't clobber Linux, it's there, it works, and it ain't gonna go away.

    Just money man talk, is all.

    Truth is, Microsux are probably working on a user friendly GUI for Linux, one that's easy to use. They'll proclaim it as 'open-source' and then they'll claim to be the saviours of free software. Whilst letting you know all you're paying for is the CD's and manual.

    And the sad thing is it'll probably work. You can't beat a multi-million publicity campaign when it comes to Joe Public.

    Recently in the UK, on the TV, a consumer watchdog programme raised the issue of WIN XP being non compatible for upgrades to lots of peeps. A spokesman for Microsux appeared on the programme. This suited smarmy over-qualified salesman carefully avoided all the real issues and constantly bleated, parrot-like 'XP is a cool piece of software and our research shows people love it'.

    He just wouldn't address the issue and skirted around it. OK, XP is pretty damned good, as are most MS OS's, but put a Corporate rep in a sticky position, you ain't gonna get no truth.

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    now here's a thought

    i found out recently, much to my dismay, that win xp doesn't properly support smb shares, basically making it incompatible with any samba based fileserver.... especially weird since 2k loved them.

    microsoft have got a fix available, but you cant get it without contacting them.., or waiting until xp-sp1 is released.

    ....another attempt by microsoft to oust the sleeping giant ??

    ....inquiring minds want to know....

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    hmmm.
    I don't know about that Flops. Bill is a big thinker. He wants his fingers in every pie, and when he can he wants every pie in his belly. Look at suX-Box, there was no need, and barely any room for a new competitor in the console market, yet here comes the 4-colored checkered flag waving in the breeze. I think you're theory is very sound, but I really wouldn't put anything past Billy Boy. And as you say, You can't beat a multi-million publicity campaign when it comes to Joe Public. , you are absolutely right. That's why it's up to people like us to inform Joe Public. We shall see indeed.

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    PR for Shareholders?

    The last coupla paragraphs sums it all up, IMO, Microsux have leaked the memo (if indeed there was officially such a memo) to appease shareholders.
    I don't quite buy that, Flops. The majority of private Microsoft shareholders don't even know what Linux is, just as the majority of Windows users don't know. The only way I could see an intentional leak would be to influence institutional investors -- mutual fund managers and such.


    To quote you again, Floppy:
    Truth is, Microsux are probably working on a user friendly GUI for Linux, one that's easy to use.
    That could actually be brilliant for MS as well as a boon for Linux. I, for one, would be very, very interested in an MS Linux. My concern though, would be that MS would somehow find a way to 'embrace and destroy', bastardizing Linux. Considering the worldwide grass roots Linux movement, I don't think Bill could slow it down.

    I've really considered giving Linux a shot, but I just don't have time for another hobby right now. If I can't install it within a couple days, and use it for everything from email, to Office, to intensive 3D gaming, I'm just not gonna cotton up to it.

    Microsoft Linux -- hmm - intrigue and anxiety all in the same characterization.

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    That's ok Leo, I'll take up the project and see where it takes me and then let you know

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    Bob?

    What do mean when you say, "I'll take up the project and see where it takes me and then let you know". It's late, and I'm dense right now. I don't understand what you mean by "project".

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    You said you don't have time for another "hobby" So I was joking saying I'll take up the "hobby" (project) for you.

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    (was digging around for a bit) things like this make things a lil interesting

    http://www.govtech.net/news/news.pht...30000000003951

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    BB: An interesting link. Fact is though, that if the US wanted to hack Linux, they probably could. I expect the technology exists for it right now. Probably developed by some spotty 16-year-old from Taiwan, bought and silenced by the CIA. Maybe.

    Leo:

    I would guess a significant proportion of MS shareholders are aware of Linux. I'll agree that the majority aren't. They just study the share prices' history and invest. But for those who are aware, the leaked memo could calm their fears.

    MS and Linux distro? Hmmm, goes against the grain a bit but I must admit I been messing about with Linux on and off about 18 months now and still haven't got my head round it. It's not easy, IMO. I have made some progress, but to learn it without taking a recognised course is actually very time-consuming.

    What I like about it though is the little bits I've learnt, once I've mastered it, it works well. No second chance in Linux though, not even with the most easy to use version, Mandrake, you make a choice to do something, hit 'Enter' Linux will carry it out, for good or for bad.

    MS and Linux? I dunno, the two ideas don't gel but it could actually in a roundabout way be an interesting project.

    And to repeat: IMO, learning Linux is very time consuming. And very frustrating. But oh, the joy when you get something right

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    Flops:
    I definately agree. Just thought it was an interesting article.

    BeeZ

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    that is true, without a manual in front of me i have already had a long string of emails about my sparc redhat, on what commands to boot it up, to shut it down, and since i don't know where anything is or how it works, i am trying not to be a bull in a china shop when i use it, so far the extent of what i can do is turn it on shut it off, use netscape and the games, my eventual goal is to drop the gui and run a server off of it, i'm sure it will take some time, but oh well, it felt like acomplishment to learn the command to shut it off, lurch

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