something different – 4262 days old

[catcorpse]

I have been pondering this for a while and I do belive it will be a reality soon. What I was thinking of doing was making a clear box(like a desktop case) that was sealied and instead of water cooling, imerse the whole board into mineral oil. then have a pump take the oil from one side and pump it into a copper coil that is in a small freezer. Then the return line would be right over the cpu so cold oil would pour ruight where I want it. I would have a moisture trap/filter and the top of the case would have the plugins for the floopy/cd-rom,hhd, and the moxst important thing clear cmos (I don't want to rip it off the top whenever I r\test it.) a few people think I am crazy, but I do think that the oil is thin enough and it would totally cool everything.

what do you think, am I crazy?

[martzweb]

interesting concept man... but wouldn't the oil make a hell of a mess of your board, and could you be sure the minerals wouldn't cause any sort of deterioration in the pcb for instance??

[ImaginAsian]

I'm assuming the oil is non-conductive?

I believe i read some folks over at FOC discussing this...

[catcorpse]

I would belive that the oil is non-corosive and I know that it's non-conductive. I havn''t seen to much talked about this, and I think I will give it a go-ahead. I want to use my Iwill KK266 and a a bird. I know that it'll make a mess, but on the good side, it won't get dusty:fishbowl: , I don'lt know. I guess it'll have to be trial and error.

[floppybootstomp]

That's an interesting concept, catcorpse, but anything of a liquid nature will eventually find it's way into everything.

Big electrolytic capacitors aren't always manufactured airtight and they're partly composed from chemicals. I'm wondering what effect oil would have on them. What sort of oil were you considering using?

One thing though, apart from no dust, the setup would be free from corrosion caused by atmospheric exposure, although I realise that's almost non-existent in a regularly used computer.

[catcorpse]

http://www.hardwareoc.com/submersed.php

something like that, exept I want to do a few tweaks to it. I want to have a coil of coper, mabey a rad in a freezer and use a heavy-duty pump. Mineral oil don't conduct electricity, so I wouldn't have to worry about shorting out the system and I would have a water filter also included(better safe than sorry). The oil is also very viscous, so flow wouldn't be a problem as long as I kept the system up and running so the oil dosn't sit to long in the freezer. the only sounds would be the pump which would be awsome, these delta's get kinda noisy.

[floppybootstomp]

Just read that article. Interesting. I'd let OCZ run one for a month or so before going ahead and see what problems, if any, they encounter.

The upgradeability factor would worry me, unless they come up with a housing that you could open up safely, change the CPU whatever, then safely reseal it. You'd probably have to wear a pair of rubber gloves

It it works OK, it does sound very attractive. Just the steady quiet hum of a pump to put up with, assuming of course, the cooler unit with the fans could be situated remotely. Am I getting this right?

[catcorpse]

this is what gave me this idea, my buddy was over and we were talking about what we could fit a computer into. Then he jokingly said "how about a computer in your fish tank :!: . I could make a square lexan box to house the mobo and oil. I will make it the highest point on the system so to change something out, just unscrew the top cover.

IA was right I remember them talking about this a while ago, but if I would wait for them to make it, it could be a while. What damage would I do other than losing another mobo/cpu. I do belive that it would give a better performance over liquid cooled and cheaper than A/c, so I will work up some rough drafts and pass them along for you to aprove/tell me I'm stupid.

[martzweb]

Cool man... look forward to seeing that... i was considering going down the aircon route, but it's expensive to run and not exactly easy to hide in an 8ft x 8ft room

hopefully by the end of next week i should be running a kg7 with a 1.4 gig axia running at 1.6 - 1.7.... i got an sk6 but i doubt it would be able to control the heat all by itself.....

[Mad dog]

To be on the safe side i'd get a PCB selant for your mobo and all other bits

[floppybootstomp]

Mad Dog: Now that's a good idea.

Catcorpse: keep us posted

[martzweb]

A big condom.... that'll do the trick

[floppybootstomp]

Originally posted by martzweb
A big condom.... that'll do the trick

Do they make them things for elephants? Or you just boasting?

[miller]

The guys over at FOC were talking about doing this and the only thing that stopped them from doing it is they couldnt find a pump that can pump mineral oil and not crap out after a week because of it working to hard...normal water pumps will not be able to handle mineral oil on a long term basis because of the thickness if I recall.

[TheHeretic]

well they didnt look hard enough for a pump. There are several industrial models that would do the job.

you would also have to find a way to either extend the pci card slots to a water tight terminus or some other way to get the various ports out of the case. a normal connector is not waterproof (or in this case oil proof)

I would be curious to see such a beast put into use.


TheHeretic

[martzweb]

of course i'm not boasting flopps..... i am a BEEG man!

tho fortunately/unfortunately not that BEEG!

when i get finished with my wind tunnel design you will all bow to my greatness muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

....and then i woke up, and had a coffee.

[muckshifter]

Too much water ...

[TheHeretic]

Thats about the only thing a Mac is good for.:p :p :p




TheHeretic