Which CPU Brand Will You Purchase Next?

**ImaginAsian** · 01-05-2003, 02:35 PM

Intel's back with compelling CPU choices at reachable prices versus AMD.

So what processor will you choose next?

**whipat** · 01-05-2003, 02:43 PM

I have both, my last one was an intel, so I would go with an AMD next time. I like both

' I'm ducking the rotten fruit youse guys are throwin at me'

**ImaginAsian** · 01-05-2003, 02:48 PM

I would like to try out Intel but got too much hardware invested in AMD so I'm going to stick with them for my next purchase.

I'm really looking forward to their Barton or Hammer because what they have now is getting creamed by Intel's latest P4.

**Troy** · 01-05-2003, 02:49 PM

AMD!

**Orange Peel** · 01-05-2003, 02:55 PM

I'm sticking with AMD for the time being. Intel seems to be making better chips now days but I have to agree with IA, I have way too much hardware for the AMD way of life to convert now.

My only real moan about AMD chips is the amount of cooling you need to maintain a stable PC. I'm not talking OTT cooling but more is needed compared to the Intel range.

**ImaginAsian** · 01-05-2003, 02:58 PM

Yeah the P4's run cooler then AMD's. I also like Intel's HeatPlate much better then the crap AMD gives us. Many a cracked chip owners can attest to that one.

*cross my fingers cuz i never cracked one yet*

**Spezi** · 01-05-2003, 03:03 PM

Next one AMD because I already have a lonely ASUS KR7A-133 that needs one.

After that it's back to Intel and into the 3GHz zone.

**poqal** · 01-05-2003, 04:43 PM

Looks like AMD is winning about 3-1.

I was always a Pentium kind of gal, but the machine we just built is an AMD. We did that for cost. I'm waiting until the 3 gig Pentium IV's come down a little and want to build one of those.

I'm really greedy, and guess I don't care which it is as long as it's new and fast!

**floppybootstomp** · 01-05-2003, 04:54 PM

Let me nail my colours to the mast and say up front that I'd rather eat **** than use an Intel processor. Even in a laptop.

3Ghz? Lemme see, that'll probably be the equivalent in speed to an AMD 2.4Ghz.

It's not so much the actual processor itself, it's the devious marketing Intel have employed in the past and the amount of totally crap products they hoisted on the public, confident their advertising/brainwashing would convince a largely ignorant public their product was superior.

If it hadn't been for AMD at last getting their act together and presenting themselves as a serious rival, Intel would still be pushing inferior product self-labelled as a five star processor.

It's all about morals. (And budget

).

AMD CPU's may produce more heat but I reckon that's because in real terms they're actually working harder and faster than Pentiums.

Well, you asked

**martzweb** · 01-05-2003, 05:21 PM

I have both here, but the desktops are all amd powered beasts, and i'd rather eat flopps **** than go back to inhell.

My lappy is a P3 however, but dont hold that against me... given the option, it'd be a mobile athlon.

**TheHeretic** · 01-05-2003, 06:05 PM

AMD!!!

And my laptop is an AMD as well. Took me a long while to find one too!!!

TheHeretic

**nomad_48** · 01-05-2003, 06:19 PM

The current Intel P4's price/performance ratio simply out perform like models (hmmm.... or shold I say similar) AMDs. To me it is a very simple decision INTEL PERIOD!

**Jizzy** · 01-05-2003, 06:32 PM

AMD! AMD! AMD! AMD! AMD!

**Spezi** · 01-05-2003, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by floppybootstomp
AMD CPU's may produce more heat but I reckon that's because in real terms they're actually working harder and faster than Pentiums.

Well, you asked

I'm not quite going to swallow that one. AMD's just plain sucked where heat issues were concerned until the more recent offerings.

I researched the matter and while I could actually pull off the heatsink fan from my Intel PIII at the time and have it live the AMD at the same time wouldn't even last a fraction of a second and was relegated to a pile of slag.

That spoke volumes to me and is what kept me at Intel. I frankly have no brand loyalty and am simply after trouble free operation and economy.

When I first got into computing I failed to see anything economical about all the people I saw purchasing new AMD's over and over again after frying them due to heat problems.

It appears AMD now has a handle on that which was why I decided to give it a shot and I am not sorry.

Where the 3.06GHz Intels are concerned I think AMD has some catching up to do yet no matter which camp you belong to.

**floppybootstomp** · 01-05-2003, 06:49 PM

Fair enough, Spezi & Intel supporters

I've stated my case and stand by it.

However, I must admit, there's a part of me hankering after just trying a Pentium-based machine, just to see what it's like.

The Sony VAIO range of laptops have quite a few models that are AMD-based, btw.

**Cool Canuck** · 01-05-2003, 07:41 PM

AMD Cause I got a place to put it and my little old 700/750 (been so long since it's run at stock speed, I forget) Duron blows the doors off my budy's Dell 1600 Intel machine.

Don't know if that's because it's a Dell or the Intel, but why take a chance.

**serlv** · 01-05-2003, 09:33 PM

My first 2 machines were Intel, my last 9 have been AMD. So you can see where my sympathies lie.

Next, probably Barton or Hammer, unless I get a hold of an XP2700+ cheap.

**BobGuy** · 01-05-2003, 10:52 PM

Thats a tuff call, I'm just gonna wait till it's time to shuck out the bucks for the next build, and see how they both are doing preformance and price wise at that time.

However for the next build I want that one to be quiet, as I'm getting tired of hearing the drone of fans all the time. So intel could have the edge in my next boxen.

**whitewolf359** · 01-05-2003, 11:01 PM

AMD will always be my choice!

Besides its cheaper to heat the house using AMD.

**Case** · 01-06-2003, 12:56 AM

I just bought an AMD XP 1800 with a MSI KT3 Ultra2 mobo - couldn't get anything comparable in price and performance from Intel. I have no real brand loyalty, although I must say I've been well served by AMD. I've built a few Intel PII boxes, some Cyrix (long ago), and countless AMD systems.

The current XP 1800/MSI combo runs cool (~42C) under load with the stock AMD HSF - not overclocked. Intel still has a reputation for stability, whether deserved or not. But like I say, in my experience, AMD is a solid performer that kicks ass.

Remember when the only way to OC Intels was with a goldfinger device? I mean other than FSB? That is what brought me initially into the AMD camp, was the ability to unlock and overclock durons and thunderbirds. AMD's performance and value have kept me as a customer.

Plus Intel has the most stupid commercials on TV, second only to MSN 8

**Gand** · 01-06-2003, 08:10 AM

I think both companies have their highs and lows, however, anyone who critisizes AMD needs to keep the following things in mind:

1. Cheap components (mobo mainly) will directly influence your performance and stability. A lot of people lack the background research and then complain when they buy a badly made component.
2. Cheap cases with lack of decent flow will of course cause your CPU to run hot, aside from the fact that the old Thunderbirds ran hot as it was. If you are going to spend the money, get a decent case, one that has good air flow. If you don't want the noise, get the Stealth fans and live with the warmer temperatures, but don't go overclock crazy.
3. AMD is the only reason Intel doesn't charge you hundreds more for their CPUs.
4. Tweakability and raw performance in number crunching - Intel will not give you the same peformance for the price of a slower (clockspeed) AMD chip.

Several other things could be added. But my next machine will definatelly be AMD once more. This is after I get the 2 chips to run in my dual socket A mobo

**Techvillage** · 01-06-2003, 08:11 AM

AMD as they are still a better deal price wise, but mainly I want to carry on supporting AMD coz they do produce a good product and they *have* been keeping Intel on their toes, no question about it. They are only major competition to Intel and we need to keep Intel in competition. Competition is good and healthy.

For the record, I don't dislike Intel, and would never refuse to buy Intel again, particulalry as that would sorely limit my choice in laptops.

However if AMD seriously lost their way, then I would not blindly follow them to the wall. I won't abandon them if they put out one flop, but not flop after flop.

**Tuffie** · 01-06-2003, 08:16 AM

I will be forced to stay with Intel,it's what I have,so would be the cheapest for me to do

**[ GK ]** · 01-06-2003, 08:55 AM

My next box will probably have Intel inside.

**Toni** · 01-06-2003, 12:04 PM

I'll stick with Intel. I've been quite satisfied.

**KaraK** · 01-06-2003, 12:35 PM

can't say I'm looking at buying at the moment so I really don't have a clue, by the time I next purchase who knows?

**ImaginAsian** · 01-07-2003, 12:04 AM

you guys gotta admit though some of Intel's newest technology like hyper-threading is pretty slick. not some marketing gimmick either.

and those memory bandwitdh and 533FSB eats up the Athlon for lunch. can't wait for Barton at 400FSB and 512K cache.

**Pigflipper** · 01-07-2003, 11:03 AM

I'm going to stick with AMD. My xp2100 ($91), Abit kx7-333r ($95) matches my friends 2.2ghz Intel system and he has more ram and a better video card (ti4200 for me, ti4600 for him). Hell, on 3dmark 2k1se I get only 100 points less than him and he paid about $700 more for his mobo, cpu, ram, and gpu than I did.

**SloHands** · 01-07-2003, 11:52 AM

Hard call for me. I have Intel and the performance has been excellent.

I am not ever considering OCing. Looked at it, heard the horror stories, and decided not to go that route. Too expensive of an option! IMO!

Quiet is paramount for me.

The "white noise" is way too much for me to deal with. I have either music or TV going to drowned out the noise of the computer.

Properly configured computers should not have a heat problem, as mine doesn't and its under my desk, in a corner. (MY attempt at some noise reduction with what I have.)

Cost of parts will be a factor on the next PC, but only a small factor. Swapping parts around is an exercise in futility to me. Build with a design in mind. Want something better? Build to that improvement. IMO!

**Alakazam** · 01-08-2003, 08:52 PM

More than likely, it will be an AMD system. I've had very good luck with this one and they are very cost effective when building new. I'm awaiting the Barton to see what shakes out in the performance area. The one thing I dislike with Intel is the yearly change of the sockets making upgrading the cpu an impossibility, not to say that AMD won't do that in the future but right now it doesn't look like it.

**Lonnie** · 01-12-2003, 03:52 PM

I have Intel...mainly since that's what came in this eMachine. Really could care less either way, as I don't intend on ever purchasing another computer...when this dies, so does my computing days.

**Darcy** · 01-15-2003, 03:43 PM

stickin' w/intel

**Ladypcer** · 01-15-2003, 04:07 PM

AMD. I've gone too far to turn back now.

Lons?

**floppybootstomp** · 01-23-2003, 08:09 PM

Looking at the poll results so far, and considering similar polls I've seen in the past, I'd say Intel have gained ground with the buying public's favour.

Influenced by their new product & the 3Ghz chip?

Wonder what speed an AMD CPU would run at to equal the Pentium 3Gig?

Answers on the back of a £10.00 note to my usual address, thank you

**kayNan** · 01-23-2003, 08:13 PM

I just replaced my AMD 1.4Ghz....with a 2.4Ghz Intel P IV...I just could not resist the 533mhz bus and seeing the hyperthreading...and my system is SO much cooler with only one fan running....Dont get me wrong I love AMD but I had to give Intel another chance....

**Gand** · 01-24-2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by kayNan
I just replaced my AMD 1.4Ghz....with a 2.4Ghz Intel P IV...I just could not resist the 533mhz bus and seeing the hyperthreading...and my system is SO much cooler with only one fan running....Dont get me wrong I love AMD but I had to give Intel another chance....

Let me guess, is it a Thunderbird based one, aka The hotest consumer CPU ever made ? Consider how much older the the CPU is compared to the P4 you have and there you go. Now if you tried the Barton cored Athlon XPs I think you'd be pleased with the low heat output as well...

$182 Pentium 4 2.4GHz 533MHz
$173 - Athlon XP 2400 (1.93GHz)

Close, but the funny part is, the XP still crunches faster. I still say once you factor in the cost of the ram, its not worth my time. If only AMD made the chips run cooler, and run the XP at the same clockspeed as the P4s.. well.. damn.. 3 GHz Athlon XP

Better yet, the next chip

**kayNan** · 01-24-2003, 08:59 PM

I know Gand, but I got the P IV free Plus 1 Gig of crucial memory....would you of passed it up???

**Spezi** · 01-29-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by kayNan
I know Gand, but I got the P IV free Plus 1 Gig of crucial memory....would you of passed it up???

What? Free? That be my favorite price wouldn't you know.

Where do I sign up?

**TJM4FUN** · 01-29-2003, 05:29 PM

Hmm, Intel? AMD?
Intel has always been overpriced and proprietory...(can we spell micrsoft?)
AMD has been fairly priced with industry satndard compatibility.

Intel is faster? don't bet on it. Oh faster clockspeed? that means nothing. it's all in the architecture of the chip.

hyperthreading? read all the reviews before jumping on the bandwagon. What will it mean to you as a general purpose pc user? (and make no mistake, that's what we all are.)
Next to nothing. This is only aminor attempt at doing what should have been done long ago to x86 cpu architecture.

Problems with AMD have mostly been the result of the via chipsets. Cooling is more difficult, but it need not be noisy to
do the job.

AMD is stilll the better performer for your dollar.
AMD is my next purchase to follow the line of them I have been running.