Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread: Navy Abandons Turkey Option, Moves Ships to Red Sea3721 days old

  1. #1
    In The "Man" Cave... BitBender's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Dallas, Texas, United States
    Posts
    19,098
    Threads
    1404

    Awards Showcase

    Real Name
    Philip
    Local Date
    05-21-2013
    Local Time
    07:42 PM

    Navy Abandons Turkey Option, Moves Ships to Red Sea



    WASHINGTON — Signaling impatience with the Turkish government, the Pentagon on Friday began moving warships out of the Mediterranean into the Red Sea, where they could launch long-range cruise missiles on a path to Iraq that would not go over Turkey, officials said.

    Of the approximately one dozen ships to be shifted, a first group of five transited the Suez Canal on Friday, harbor officials at Egypt's Port Said said. They identified the ships as the guided missile destroyer USS Arleigh Burke of the Theodore Roosevelt battle group and the destroyer USS Deyo of the Harry S. Truman battle group.

    Three submarines from the battle groups also traveled through the canal -- the USS Boise, USS Toledo and USS San Juan, the officials said.

    The rest of the ships were to follow soon, Pentagon officials said.

    The Truman and Roosevelt aircraft carriers are remaining in the eastern Mediterranean, at least for now, officials said. They have been operating there for weeks in anticipation of war against Iraq. Each carrier has about 80 aircraft aboard, including F/A-18 attack planes.

    The shift of Tomahawk-shooting ships could be the first step in a larger redeployment of ground and naval firepower away from Turkey, which so far has refused to grant overflight rights for U.S. naval aircraft and cruise missiles like the low-flying Tomahawk.

    The Pentagon had hoped to base a 60,000-strong U.S. Army force as well as additional Air Force warplanes in Turkey for use in an Iraq war, but Turkey has not approved those, either. About 50 American and British planes at Incirlik air base in south-central Turkey enforce a no-fly zone over northern Iraq, but it is not clear that the Turkish government would allow them to fly offensive missions against Iraq.

    From the Red Sea, the Navy cruisers, destroyers and submarines would be able to launch their Tomahawks for flights over Saudi Arabia to targets inside Iraq.

    Tomahawks are satellite-guided missiles normally used in the opening stages of war to strike high-value, fixed targets such as government buildings in areas where the risk of civilian casualties is relatively high.

    The Tomahawks are 18 feet long and are designed to evade radar by skimming the land or sea surface. They carry 1,000-pound warheads. Following the Gulf War, they became one of the weapons of choice to respond to Iraqi breaches of U.N. sanctions.

    The issue of overflight rights for U.S. missiles and planes has been overshadowed by the Bush administration's struggle to win Turkey's approval to base 60,000 or more U.S. troops there to open a northern front against Iraq.

    The Turkish parliament rejected the U.S. request for basing rights earlier this month, and Pentagon officials said Thursday it appeared increasingly unlikely that the Army would position its 4th Infantry Division in Turkey, as originally planned.

    About three dozen cargo ships with the 4th Infantry Division's weaponry, equipment and supplies have been waiting off the Turkish coast for weeks, and the troops are still at their base in Fort Hood, Texas.

    During the 1991 Gulf War the Navy positioned carriers and Tomahawk-launching ships in the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf. It now has three carriers in the Gulf -- the USS Kitty Hawk, the USS Constellation and the USS Abraham Lincoln. Those carrier battle groups include about 20 Tomahawk-firing ships and submarines

  2. #2
    BBF's "Tuffie" Angel in the SKies Tuffie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Sheriff of BBT/BBF
    Posts
    6,564
    Threads
    236

    Awards Showcase

    Local Date
    05-21-2013
    Local Time
    07:42 PM
    Looks like we can save a few billion,but it would have been better to have their support.It's about time the U.S.A. looks at the Countries we send billions of dollars in aid,build bases for us to use,then have them tell us to go to hell.Of course I'm sure there is a lot going on behind the headlines,that we never hear about.
    Tuffie

  3. #3
    2004 will Rock! Dramen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    BBF Staff HQ
    Posts
    3,322
    Threads
    323
    Local Date
    05-21-2013
    Local Time
    07:42 PM
    Me agrees with that Tuff, when they need us were always there, where are they when we need them.

  4. #4
    Posting Deity Case's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Cainsville, MO
    Posts
    6,440
    Threads
    1285

    Awards Showcase

    Local Date
    05-21-2013
    Local Time
    06:42 PM
    Nice that the Saudi's granted overflight rights, but I'd personally like to see the ships carrying the equipment for the 4th Infantry Division sent down to the Red Sea also. That would definitely signal an end to waiting on Turkey - I think we've waited long enough.

    I dare say Turkey is going to have their hands full on their eastern and southern borders, and they’ll be handling it by themselves. Looks like we’ll have to push up through western Iraq to have a northern front in this war . . .
    It is harder and harder to make a case to a weary and dismayed population that the Western way of life as managed by the Anglosphere ought to be spread around the world at the point of a gun.

    http://www.wrightfamilyhome.org/family.htm

  5. #5
    EXECUTIVE TOILET SCRUBBER James's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    In the Fairway
    Posts
    4,011
    Threads
    254

    Awards Showcase

    Local Date
    05-21-2013
    Local Time
    08:42 PM
    Originally posted by Dramen
    Me agrees with that Tuff, when they need us were always there, where are they when we need them.
    Holding out,thier greedy Claws!
    All that is gold does not glitter,not all those who wander are lost ....


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •