That's how you get to "shutdown". Move your cursor down there, a bar pops out from the right hand side, click on "settings" (the sprocket), then "power", then of course "shutdown".Originally Posted by ZemaTalon
That's how you get to "shutdown". Move your cursor down there, a bar pops out from the right hand side, click on "settings" (the sprocket), then "power", then of course "shutdown".
My life is slipping away
I'm aging every day
But even when I'm grey
I'll still be grey my way
Ok - I quit. I got my ass kicked by Windows 8. My machine is 5 years old. Maybe I'm out of horsepower. Who cares..........
And who'd ever think of shutting down as being a "setting"?Oh yeah - cellphones are normally left on 24/7, that must explain their logic
I'm running it in a single core VM with 1GB of allocated RAM and default settings for everything. Hardware is a Q6600 running stock, host is Slack 13.37.
In all honestly though, you're not missing much.
Power is something that should be given to those who need it to serve and withheld from those who seek it to rule.
That's right. I went ahead and put it on a VM. Took about 10 minutes. Very little difference from the consumer preview from a couple months back. Spent about as much time with this RC as I did with the preview, maybe 15 minutes. I'm once again done with it.
I think this sums it up pretty well:
I've got it running in VBox on my Mint setup, guest additions won't install, I'm stuck at 1024 resolution and the OS freezes occasionally for no apparent reason. I really want to try it out though, maybe if I install VB on Win7 it will behave like it's supposed to.
Don't choose the ICH9 chipset for the virtual machine's "motherboard"... that's what was causing it to freeze for me.
I was hoping that would be the case, and so all I had done was update my existing VM install. But as it turns out MS still doesn't do things like that, like we're used to in most Linux distros. I just heard Paul Thurrott saying MS requires a fresh install between builds, so I went ahead and installed it from the RC iso to compare, and sure enough, my fully updated old Win8 install is build 8250, while the new RC is build 8400.
I believe it's always been that way with pre-release builds of Windows.
No, betas don't update to release candidates. They never have and probably never will.
Why not? Think about it. Why would they waste their time planning and testing upgrade paths for pre-release software?
Yeah, that's what I was referring to when I said that I believed it had always been that way. Meaning that is no upgrade path and you always had to uninstall the old one.
Yes, I understood your comment that way in the context of replying to Zema's post. Mine was in follow up to those.
Ah gotcha
Ah gotcha x 2
Today I have learnt something. Not that this particular little nugget of wisdom will enrich my life much but nevertheless I have learnt something.
Enrich your life? This is a thread about a Microsoft product. The best you can hope for is that it doesn't ruin your life. Ruin your hardware, and cause your computer to emit radiation that ruins your bollocks. (You see that blubbering idiot on those "I'm a PC" commercials, right? His testicles have shrunken to the size of dried sultanas.)
I thought my bollocks were ruined once when this gigantic surfer from Newcastle kicked them after we disagreed about something petty in the downstairs bar. Not quite the size of oranges but certainly rivalling an overripe pair of plums. I got him back though, slipped some piss in his drink one night. He disappeared soon after, I've always rather hoped a shark got him.
Commercials? Nope, sorry, haven't got a clue, no telly now for 15 years at least, though I do see those billboard hoardings. Not familiar with the 'I'm a PC' ad. What's PC stand for? Let's have a competition.... I can see a lot of possibilities
The commercials depict this Mac yuppy ("I'm a Mac") and this boring, officious idiot in a formal suit ("I'm a PC"). The Mac guy is cool, and the PC guy is a twit etc. That's probably all you need to know, but there will be lots of those commercials posted to youtube.
So I'm sitting here thinking. And scarily, had a realization.
Why is windows 8 such trash? It's because Microsoft doesn't have anyone to copy from.
I dunno. It looks like they might have cross-bred Unity and AOL with a bit of Windows 1.0 in the back passage to me.
But that's just it. They snagged some ancient crap for the interface, but don't have an actual working Phone-Desktop OS to "borrow" that makes it all work as it should.
Nobody else has been stupid enough to even try it. Almost everything I see or read is telling me this is going to be worse than the Vista Virus.
I hope Apple is getting their Chinese workers ready for some increased production. They gonna sell a LOT more Macs when MS unleashes this shit storm on the PC world.
Just thought I'd mention I actually hate Android. Yep, I know, but sorry, just don't like it.
One year ago had ancient but perfectly functioning Samsung mobile, about 3 years old, Sim card only rental, cheap as chips.
3 years old for a mobile is kinda like using a steam train to deliver valve radios so I got me's an HTC Wildfire and moved up to date. Two year contract, tripled the rental fee and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever had the misfortune to try and use in my life - I hate it.
You only gotta breathe too hard on the touchscreen and it does something, I can't find fuckall, it just don't make sense. Oh, I've tried, this is not an old farty thing, I'm still trying, but it just don't make sense to me. I'm not alone, quick Google shows scores of complaints like mine. And I still have a whole year of contract to go.
Never, ever, ever again, Sim card rental only from now on and if I want a new fancy-arse phone I will buy it cash. My daughters all have i-Phones. I tried the one belonging to eldest and could not believe just how easy it was to use. It's an absolute dream compared to my HTC piece of shit. Never thought I'd come out in favour of Apple but I cannot deny something is good when it is good. Gonna get me one of those i-Phones.
Why do I mention all this?
Well, using a tablet/phone/app based OS didn't work for me with a phone so I figure I got no chance at all with Win 8
My logic may very well be flawed here but I do hope some of you see the point I'm trying to make....
Wife went out last month and bought herself an iPad-2. She seems to be enjoying it. So being the goof I am, went out and got her 50 bucks worth of iTunes gift cards for her b-day. Well? I did ask her what she wanted this year, I got the normal "I don't know" for an answer. At least I know she'll get some use outta the cards.
Battery croaked in her old Vista running sony laptop. Guess this was her way of fixing it. ROFL!
As far as your android dislike. I wonder what kind of bullshit your service provider pulled with it. Sprint didn't muck with the version on my Motorola too bad and it's actually pretty good. Only issue I have is on-screen keyboard + gorilla paws trying to type on the damn thing can be a bitch at times.
Same here - my HTC Android Incredible is the best phone I've had since my original Samsung flip phone from 2004. I have Verizon, but I got the phone from Amazon via their cellphone store - it was a lot cheaper & without all the bogus Verizon fees. Plus this phone wasn't even avail from Verizon anymore. It's pretty easy to use, but I sometimes have the same problem as Fing with the on-screen keyboard. Any smartphone is great for when you're out and about but need quick net access. I don't think you could go wrong with an iPhone either though if you don't mind drinking the Apple cool-aid
Different carriers do some funny things to their android phones. My daughter has a HTC Wildfire and I don't like it. Wifey has a Samsung Galaxy S and it's better but I prefer my Motorola Defy. On mine the screen in sensitive enough without being stupid and not being a HTC I'm confident the Chinese government isn't watching my web browsing, copying passwords and recording my phone calls ... and yes I have heard little bits and pieces that make me suspicious of HTC's ties to the Chinese government.
Well crap, I installed VB on Windows and Win8 won't run properly on it either. At first it wouldn't even install unless I turned on the XdisableBit in the bios, WTF is that, how many folks have laptops with their limited options.
Guest installed just fine but the screen is all wonky, it's like trying to run a modern game with a 1985 GPU, although I'm just guessing that VBox needs some work, 256 mb for graphics is crazy, maybe I'm just in a bad mood tonight as I've been fighting this all day, LOL.
There's no update for the VB I'm running in Mint and I hate to start over with a new version from Oracle as Slack is running well along with another distro I'm messing with, but that's prpbably what I'll end up doing.
On my X setup, VB is version 4.1.2 and doesn't have support for Guest in Win8 so I'm stuck with the VGA graphics, Slack and Mint13 run OK. In Windows, VB is Ver. 4.1.16 with support for the Guest, but the graphics ar horrible, I haven't tried any other OS except Win8 on my Windows machine. I'm going to call it a night.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Win...23xtor=RSS-993
"The real problem is that it is both unusable and annoying," Dvorak writes. "It makes your teeth itch as you keep asking, 'Why are they doing this!?' First of all, the system-software product is mostly divorced from all the thought and trends developed by Windows over the years, as if to say that they were wrong the whole time, so let's try something altogether new. No business will tolerate this software, let me assure you. As a productivity tool, it is unusable."
Hey Zammy, what do you mean by "the screen is all wonky"? I was running Win8 in VirtualBox 4.1.16 and it looked fine. Well as fine as Win8 can achieve
Also just an FYI. I really, really hated Win8 while trying it in a VM. Yesterday I decided to give it a really fair shake and put a spare HD in my computer and switched the boot order in my BIOS to make it my first boot device. That way I could easily just switch back and forth between that and my main HD to go into Windows 7. I didn't want a dual boot to mess with the MBR. Anyway I installed Win8 on it and I have to say that it's much more palatable now. So instead of really, really hating it, I just hate it
So instead of really, really hating it, I just hate it
I gave Win 8 a 500Gb HDD all to itself and installed my Steam folder to it as well, it all worked, presumably how it's supposed to work. Which is why I don't like it.
Getting back to my HTC Wildfire phone I think my discomfort with it and Android is very likely the phone itself as several friends have different HTC phones or use Android and they're all really pleased with them.
My main annoyances are trying to type a text message - too fiddly, scrolling through phone number list, it keeps dialling a random number if I so much as put a microgram of pressure on one and ok, I can get online with it but how the hell am I supposed to read that web page? It's either miniscule or enlarging to readable text I can see, like, 6 words. And I have small hands.
MSUredux, I've got to have a laugh here, everytime Win8 acted up I tried to take a pic of the mess, guess what, the pic turns out perfect!!! I'll try tomorrow and reinstall the guest editions without D3D and see what happens. I don't have a spare drive laying around other than an old 5400 rpm ide drive and that's not going to cut it, hmmm, good excuse for another drive, lol.
An old 5400 RPM drive would be fine just to test it out in my opinion. Just so you know, Win 8 took up a little over 20GB though.
Win 8 will absolutely not behave if I try to use the guest editions in VBox on Win7, back to the standard VGA driver and it's OK, at least I can use the abomination now,
It's like "Windows Phone 7 onto my PC with a 22" widescreen"
Yeah, "It’s a tablet OS that’s been grafted onto Windows like a monstrous Frankenstein experiment"
Now now! That's insulting to Frankenstein-like experiments everywhere!
Ooops, sorry Frankenstein, I should have said it's like a Unity experimentNow now! That's insulting to Frankenstein-like experiments everywhere!
While looking at this ridiculous interface I was thinking about the earlier days of the NT platform. Back in the late 90's I was working for a company that had an ISP business on the side - that was back when most ISP's were dialup so it was relatively easy to set one up, and so this document imaging company I worked for was also a small local ISP. The server was an NT 4 box. I was envious of the webmaster who was the only one in the building who got to use Windows NT. The rest of us made due with Windows 95 and 3.1, and then I went home every day to my own unstable Win95. But finally I got my hands on Win2000, and it said right on the splash screen "built on NT technology" - I loved seeing that every time I booted it up. I finally had a real NT OS, instead of that Win9x toy krap. Then XP came out, and everyone now used it, and it no longer seemed quite so special. But it was still NT underneath so it was still good. Windows 8 is also still basically NT, but in this case it's like they took the body off a perfectly good truck and replaced it with the Oscar Mayer Wiener Mobile body. It just seems to make a mockery of what we used to know as Windows NT. And it is indeed a wiener of an OS. I'm so glad we have better alternatives today. Imagine if MS had pulled this stunt 17 years ago.
But they sort of did
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