New printer

phicks · 01-27-2010, 02:39 PM

I need a new printer. I have an Epson right now and I have to constantly baby sit it and its quite a few years old now anyways. I also have one of those cheap canons but you would need a mint to keep it going with the price of ink.

I need one of those all in ones. Printer, copier & scanner. I use the printer quite a bit now since I've been homeschooling the kids. Also need low cost ink and wireless for under $150. Not sure if thats possible or not.

Would rather pay more to get something cheaper on ink though. Really don't print photos or that type of stuff and don't care about the speed or noise. Mostly just need something nice that isn't going to jam up every few pages if you don't look at it the right way and I can get my moneys worth out of the ink cartridges. Epson says I get about 800 pgs with the black cartridges I use now so would like to keep it at least in that range. More would be nice.

The canon gets around 200 and thats why I rarely use it. Luckily I only paid $40 for the printer.

Fingerle · 01-27-2010, 02:47 PM

I've had real good luck wif my Brother HL-1440 laser...

They do make a couple all in one models. (MFC) and even have a couple color laser models. Damn color jobbers are still around $500.

Multi function monochrome units runnin around $250. With toner prices not much different than ink IMHO. 2500pages for around $40. I've been running with the same toner cartridge in mine for a couple years now.

Grogan · 01-27-2010, 03:07 PM

If you get a "wireless printer" make sure it's got an ethernet port as well, because configuration sucks when it's wireless only (you have to first install it as a USB printer and during the software install you configure the wireless settings with your key and all. (unless it's an open wireless network, which you know better than to run). If the wireless network ever changes, you have to do that again) unless it has a sophisticated enough LCD display on it that you can actually get in and program the wireless settings right from the device. (most don't, they only DISPLAY wireless settings, not configure, and you likely won't know until you get it)

A printer that has an ethernet port, you don't even have to use the wireless on the printer. Just plug it into one of the switch ports on your router. Once it's on your network, wireless clients can still print to it. It's more reliable connected by ethernet too.

I get pissed off with those cheap wireless printers. I'll set them up and they will be working when I leave... but then what? The next day I'm getting calls trying to make me responsible for it.

It doesn't cost that much more to have a printer with both ethernet and wireless. Go to a store and physically look at them, if possible.

phicks · 01-27-2010, 03:20 PM

This one has both G. It looks interesting.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113291

phicks · 01-27-2010, 03:26 PM

Ooops wrong one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113291

Troy · 01-27-2010, 04:39 PM

For a few dollars more.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113112

Grogan · 01-27-2010, 04:41 PM

"brother HL Series HL-2170W Workgroup Up to 23 ppm Monochrome Wireless Laser Printer"

That's cheap, $109 for a networked laser printer. I'm not familiar with it, but if it works as advertised you couldn't go wrong. Toner cartridges (in the long term) are much less expensive than inkjet cartridges too.

I'd try that one as long as you don't need colour printing.

phicks · 01-27-2010, 05:09 PM

It does look nice G.

Troy I think that one is out of my range.

phicks · 02-03-2010, 08:54 AM

$99 and free shipping. Said I should get it in about 2 days.

MSUredux · 02-03-2010, 11:28 AM

That don't look too shabby. I may have to get one.

I have a Canon Pixma iP4200 right now. Works great for photo's. It's not too bad on ink usage. Or maybe it just seems that way because I don't do a lot of color printing and it has 5 cartridges and I never have to replace more than one at a time, usually black. However, 99% of my printing is documents. One time all the spririts lined up in a row and I had to buy all 5 at once...almost $80! I swore then and there that the next time they all ran out at once I'd just get a new printer.

phicks · 02-03-2010, 11:33 AM

I hate when that happens.

phicks · 02-05-2010, 04:16 PM

Got the new printer today and so far so good. Haven't tried the wireless bit since I'm still wired.

TJM4FUN · 02-05-2010, 04:42 PM

I just got the brother 2170 for 99$ from staples. nice. fast. you can get cheaper toner cartridges from microcenter, I think 35$ for a 6000 page cart.
Setup is a pita.
If you want wirless, or even straight eithernet, DONOT use auto (dhcp) Set an address, as any attached pc only adds the printer by the address it found it at, and that can change. Also the wired port and wireless port use a differrent mac, if you use mac filtering.
I set mine to 192.168.1.225 then it works and is found all the time everytime. and man that thing is fast.
you can set the lowest dpi and toner save and it still looks great for text printing. you may want more for greyscale pics, but that is just taste.

phicks · 02-05-2010, 08:59 PM

Using ethernet right now. Guess I should give it an address.

MSUredux · 02-05-2010, 10:05 PM

Why would you want to give it a dress?

Fingerle · 02-05-2010, 10:49 PM

Must be one of them Girl things.

phicks · 02-06-2010, 07:03 AM

I suppose I could make it all pretty.

TJM4FUN · 02-06-2010, 09:49 AM

Don't forget the bow!!

you might get away with it with a cable connection, their wireless setup is wierd. On the other hand, with dhcp, if you reset your router, and the printer is off, the next time you turn it on it may not get the same addy, and in that case, windows seems to lose the printer, at least with xp, when it adds it it adds it as a tcpip port with the address it found it at when installed. it that changes, it can't seem to connect.

Grogan · 02-06-2010, 01:50 PM

I don't know about that model, but what I find happens if you don't statically configure is that Windows just adds a new "port" for the printer each time the IP address changes. The printer should have a hostname on the network so that it's found. (LMAnnounce)

It's supposed to work. Static is more reliable though of course.

01-27-2010, 02:39 PM	#1
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	New printer I need a new printer. I have an Epson right now and I have to constantly baby sit it and its quite a few years old now anyways. I also have one of those cheap canons but you would need a mint to keep it going with the price of ink. I need one of those all in ones. Printer, copier & scanner. I use the printer quite a bit now since I've been homeschooling the kids. Also need low cost ink and wireless for under $150. Not sure if thats possible or not. Would rather pay more to get something cheaper on ink though. Really don't print photos or that type of stuff and don't care about the speed or noise. Mostly just need something nice that isn't going to jam up every few pages if you don't look at it the right way and I can get my moneys worth out of the ink cartridges. Epson says I get about 800 pgs with the black cartridges I use now so would like to keep it at least in that range. More would be nice. The canon gets around 200 and thats why I rarely use it. Luckily I only paid $40 for the printer. __________________

01-27-2010, 03:20 PM	#4
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	This one has both G. It looks interesting. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113291 __________________

01-27-2010, 03:26 PM	#5
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	Ooops wrong one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113291 __________________

01-27-2010, 04:39 PM	#6
Troy 78 Miles Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwestern PA Posts: 6,801 Points: 118,281.24 Bank: 157,875,079.28 Total Points: 157,993,360.52 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 11	For a few dollars more..... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828113112 __________________ In Memory of Pat & Tuff

01-27-2010, 05:09 PM	#8
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	It does look nice G. Troy I think that one is out of my range. __________________

01-27-2010, 02:47 PM	#2
Fingerle ......... Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,370 Points: 95,857.64 Bank: 122,806,829.05 Total Points: 122,902,686.69 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10	I've had real good luck wif my Brother HL-1440 laser... They do make a couple all in one models. (MFC) and even have a couple color laser models. Damn color jobbers are still around $500. Multi function monochrome units runnin around $250. With toner prices not much different than ink IMHO. 2500pages for around $40. I've been running with the same toner cartridge in mine for a couple years now.

01-27-2010, 03:07 PM	#3
Grogan Hell's Very Own Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,968 Points: 139,190.40 Bank: 385,740,828.31 Total Points: 385,880,018.71 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	If you get a "wireless printer" make sure it's got an ethernet port as well, because configuration sucks when it's wireless only (you have to first install it as a USB printer and during the software install you configure the wireless settings with your key and all. (unless it's an open wireless network, which you know better than to run). If the wireless network ever changes, you have to do that again) unless it has a sophisticated enough LCD display on it that you can actually get in and program the wireless settings right from the device. (most don't, they only DISPLAY wireless settings, not configure, and you likely won't know until you get it) A printer that has an ethernet port, you don't even have to use the wireless on the printer. Just plug it into one of the switch ports on your router. Once it's on your network, wireless clients can still print to it. It's more reliable connected by ethernet too. I get pissed off with those cheap wireless printers. I'll set them up and they will be working when I leave... but then what? The next day I'm getting calls trying to make me responsible for it. It doesn't cost that much more to have a printer with both ethernet and wireless. Go to a store and physically look at them, if possible.

01-27-2010, 04:41 PM	#7
Grogan Hell's Very Own Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,968 Points: 139,190.40 Bank: 385,740,828.31 Total Points: 385,880,018.71 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	"brother HL Series HL-2170W Workgroup Up to 23 ppm Monochrome Wireless Laser Printer" That's cheap, $109 for a networked laser printer. I'm not familiar with it, but if it works as advertised you couldn't go wrong. Toner cartridges (in the long term) are much less expensive than inkjet cartridges too. I'd try that one as long as you don't need colour printing.

02-03-2010, 08:54 AM	#9
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	$99 and free shipping. Said I should get it in about 2 days. __________________

02-03-2010, 11:28 AM	#10
MSUredux Bikini Peeker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jeannette, PA Posts: 389 Points: 68,471.52 Bank: 576,340.48 Total Points: 644,812.00 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	That don't look too shabby. I may have to get one. I have a Canon Pixma iP4200 right now. Works great for photo's. It's not too bad on ink usage. Or maybe it just seems that way because I don't do a lot of color printing and it has 5 cartridges and I never have to replace more than one at a time, usually black. However, 99% of my printing is documents. One time all the spririts lined up in a row and I had to buy all 5 at once...almost $80! I swore then and there that the next time they all ran out at once I'd just get a new printer. __________________ My life is slipping away I'm aging every day But even when I'm grey I'll still be grey my way

02-03-2010, 11:33 AM	#11
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	I hate when that happens. __________________

02-05-2010, 04:16 PM	#12
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	Got the new printer today and so far so good. Haven't tried the wireless bit since I'm still wired. __________________

02-05-2010, 04:42 PM	#13
TJM4FUN DEMON OF THE DEAD Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 4,666 Points: 80,909.97 Bank: 44,548,072.57 Total Points: 44,628,982.54 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9	I just got the brother 2170 for 99$ from staples. nice. fast. you can get cheaper toner cartridges from microcenter, I think 35$ for a 6000 page cart. Setup is a pita. If you want wirless, or even straight eithernet, DONOT use auto (dhcp) Set an address, as any attached pc only adds the printer by the address it found it at, and that can change. Also the wired port and wireless port use a differrent mac, if you use mac filtering. I set mine to 192.168.1.225 then it works and is found all the time everytime. and man that thing is fast. you can set the lowest dpi and toner save and it still looks great for text printing. you may want more for greyscale pics, but that is just taste. __________________ VODKA : IT'S NOT JUST A BREAKFAST DRINK! 9-11.......... ALL GAVE SOME..............SOME GAVE ALL ................NEVER FORGET !!

02-05-2010, 08:59 PM	#14
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	Using ethernet right now. Guess I should give it an address. __________________

02-05-2010, 10:05 PM	#15
MSUredux Bikini Peeker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jeannette, PA Posts: 389 Points: 68,471.52 Bank: 576,340.48 Total Points: 644,812.00 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	Why would you want to give it a dress? __________________ My life is slipping away I'm aging every day But even when I'm grey I'll still be grey my way

02-05-2010, 10:49 PM	#16
Fingerle ......... Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,370 Points: 95,857.64 Bank: 122,806,829.05 Total Points: 122,902,686.69 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10	Must be one of them Girl things.

02-06-2010, 07:03 AM	#17
phicks Kentucky Sunshine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky,USA Posts: 8,184 Points: 162,682.89 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 162,682.89 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	I suppose I could make it all pretty. __________________

02-06-2010, 09:49 AM	#18
TJM4FUN DEMON OF THE DEAD Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 4,666 Points: 80,909.97 Bank: 44,548,072.57 Total Points: 44,628,982.54 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9	Don't forget the bow!! you might get away with it with a cable connection, their wireless setup is wierd. On the other hand, with dhcp, if you reset your router, and the printer is off, the next time you turn it on it may not get the same addy, and in that case, windows seems to lose the printer, at least with xp, when it adds it it adds it as a tcpip port with the address it found it at when installed. it that changes, it can't seem to connect. __________________ VODKA : IT'S NOT JUST A BREAKFAST DRINK! 9-11.......... ALL GAVE SOME..............SOME GAVE ALL ................NEVER FORGET !!

02-06-2010, 01:50 PM	#19
Grogan Hell's Very Own Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,968 Points: 139,190.40 Bank: 385,740,828.31 Total Points: 385,880,018.71 Donate Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	I don't know about that model, but what I find happens if you don't statically configure is that Windows just adds a new "port" for the printer each time the IP address changes. The printer should have a hostname on the network so that it's found. (LMAnnounce) It's supposed to work. Static is more reliable though of course.

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